Consejos a Obama......

[nachonacho]

El matutino elogió la política económica en una editorial The New York Times: Obama debe inspirarse en Argentina para salir de la crisis

 

 

Dijo que el país es un caso testigo de cómo volver a hacer funcionar una economía. “Washington debería prestarle atención”, asegura.

Argentina ha recobrado su prosperidad gracias a inteligentes medidas económicas.” La frase no corresponde a un político oficialista en campaña, ni siquiera por un medio de comunicación cercano a las posiciones del gobierno.

Fue publicada ayer en la versión impresa del prestioso The New York Times, uno de los periódicos más influyentes del mundo, que a través de una editorial le sugirió al presidente Barack Obama que se “inspire” en la experiencia argentina a la hora de tomar medidas para sortear las actuales dificultades de la economía americana.

Luego de poner en relieve la gravedad de la crisis de 2001, el artículo enumera que “la economía creció más del 6% al año durante siete de los últimos ocho años, el desempleo ha descendido del 20 al 8%, y el nivel de pobreza se ha reducido casi a la mitad durante la última década”.

El editorial, que lleva la firma del periodista Ian Mount, enfatiza el nivel de consumo en la actividad económica. En este sentido, describe el “reverdecer” de automóviles “que asfixian las calles de Buenos Aires, la “meca del vino, Mendoza, llena de bodegas de alta calidad”, y los TV plasma y celulares Blackberry “que se convirtieron en una costumbre de la clase media urbana”.

El artículo –que lleva por título “El tango que dio vuelta a Argentina”– señala que entre las razones de semejante performance económica la experiencia inmediatamente anterior a la crisis de 2001, en la Argentina “mostró la escasa contribución que las políticas de austeridad económica –el tipo de medidas que en la actualidad impulsan los conservadores en los Estados Unidos– realizan al crecimiento.”

“Argentina recortó el gasto público de manera drástica como parte de los préstamos que recibía del Fondo Monetario Internacional. Como era de esperar, entre 1998 y 2002, la economía se contrajo casi un 20%”, precisa el matutino americano.

Mount también criticó con ironía a los conservadores estadounidenses que equiparan el incremento en el gasto público como una especie de peligroso avance estatista en la economía.

Fundado en 1851, The New York Times es considerado como uno de los mayores referentes a la hora de formar opinión a nivel mundial. Con más de 90 premios Pulitzer en su haber, es frecuente que en sus páginas opinen referentes mundiales, tales como el premio Nobel Paul Krugman.

El diario estadounidense también destacó a la Asignación Universal, “que comenzó en 2009 y contó con el apoyo del gobierno y la oposición”. Y agrega que, además “de ayudar a incrementar el consumo, probablemente mejorará a largo plazo la performance educativa del país, debido a que los chicos están obligados a ir a la escuela”.

“La Argentina todavía ofrece valiosas lecciones. Por un lado, la extrema reducción de costos durante un período de estancamiento económico sólo inhiben el crecimiento”, señala el periódico. Y agrega que “el gasto público para promover la industria local, los programas de empleo en infraestructura y las prestaciones por desempleo no convierten a un país en una especie de parodia soviética. Se pone el dinero en los bolsillos de los ciudadanos comunes y corrientes, que luego gastan y estimulan la economía.”

“La Argentina es difícilmente un paralelismo perfecto para los Estados Unidos. Pero la diferencia entre las políticas de austeridad y poco crecimiento de finales de los ’90 y las de pro Estado y alto crecimiento de 2000 ofrecen un caso testigo de cómo hacer crecer la economía de nuevo. Washington haría bien en prestarle atención”, concluye.

 

Tiempo Argentino

 

Saludos y a sus MÁS GRATAS ÓRDENES

[Succionides]

Respuesta: Consejos a Obama......

 

Ja ,ja,veremos como termina la fiesta del gasto.Esperemos un poco .Esto ya lo vimos en los 90...

[nachonacho]

Respuesta: Consejos a Obama......

 

Ja ,ja,veremos como termina la fiesta del gasto.Esperemos un poco .Esto ya lo vimos en los 90...

 

es lo que ud desea para MI país no???

 

saludos y a sus más gratas órdenes

[eder]

Respuesta: Consejos a Obama......

 

En aras a la verdad "periodistica" esta es una carta-opinion al Editor del diario.

 

Es una "contribucion" de Ian Mount, autor del proximo libro 'Los viñedos del fin del mundo: los viñateros Maverick y el renacimiento del malbec'.

 

Op-Ed Contributor

 

Argentina’s Turnaround Tango

 

By IAN MOUNT

 

Published: September 1, 2011

 

 

 

ARGENTINA may seem like one of the last countries on earth to offer lessons for dealing with economic malaise. Once the eighth-largest economy in the world, it steadily slid through the 20th century, thanks to decades of repressive dictatorships and inconsistent market experiments.

 

This ended ignominiously in 2001, when it defaulted on $100 billion in sovereign debt, plunging over half its 35 million people into poverty.

 

That, at least, is the Argentina people know. Since then, it has performed an economic U-turn — an achievement largely unnoticed outside Latin America, but one that President Obama and Congress should look to for inspiration.

 

Argentina is not without problems, but its recent economic record speaks for itself: the economy has grown by over 6 percent a year for seven of the last eight years, unemployment has been cut to under 8 percent today from over 20 percent in 2002, and the poverty level has fallen by almost half over the last decade. The streets of Buenos Aires are choked with cars as Argentines are on track to buy some 800,000 new vehicles this year; the wine mecca of Mendoza is full of high-end tasting rooms, hotels and restaurants offering regional haute cuisine; and plasma TVs and BlackBerrys have become household staples among the urban middle class.

 

Argentina has regained its prosperity partly out of dumb luck: a commodity price boom has vastly benefitted this soy, corn and wheat producer. But it has also prospered thanks to smart economic measures. The government intervened to keep the value of its currency low, which boosts local industry by making Argentina’s exports cheaper abroad while keeping foreign imports expensive.

 

It then taxed those imports and exports, using the money to pay for a New Deal-like public works binge, increasing government spending to 25 percent of G.D.P. today from 14 percent in 2003. As a result, the country has 400,000 new low-income housing units, as well as a long-delayed, 235-mile highway between the northern cities of Rosario and Córdoba.

 

It has also strengthened its social safety net: the Universal Child Allowance, started in 2009 with support from both the ruling party and the opposition, gives 1.9 million low-income families a monthly stipend of about $42 per child, which helps increase consumption. Because the amount depends in part on how often the child attends school, it is also likely to improve the country’s long-term educational performance.

 

The results have also paid off politically: President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner recently won about 50 percent of the vote in an open primary against nine other presidential candidates.

 

Why have Argentines embraced bigger government? In part because the preceding era showed how poorly austerity measures — the sort now being pushed by conservatives in the United States — promote growth. In the late 1990s, Argentina cut government spending drastically on the order of its lenders at the International Monetary Fund. Predictably, between 1998 and 2002, Argentina’s economy shrank by almost 20 percent. It was only after Argentina turned its back on these austerity demands, and defaulted on its debt, that it began to recover.

 

Of course, Argentina is far from perfect: the import and export taxes have scared away some foreign investment, while high spending has pushed inflation well over 20 percent. There are also problems with the way Argentina is run: corruption, government opacity, authoritarian tendencies, confiscatory taxes and a temptation to tweak unpleasant inflation statistics. And it would be laughable to suggest that the United States follow its lead and default on its debt.

 

But Argentina still offers valuable lessons. For one thing, extreme cost-cutting during a stagnant economic period will only inhibit growth. And government spending to promote local industry, pro-job infrastructure programs and unemployment benefits does not turn a country into a kind of Soviet parody. It puts money in the pockets of average citizens, who then spend it and spur the economy. Spending cuts need to be made when times improve — an imperative Argentina is struggling with now — but not before.

 

Argentina is hardly a perfect parallel for the United States. But the stark difference between its austere policies and low growth of the late 1990s and the pro-government, high-growth 2000s offers a test case for how to get an economy moving again. Washington would do well to pay attention.

 

Ian Mount is the author of the forthcoming book “The Vineyard at the End of the World: Maverick Winemakers and the Rebirth of Malbec.”

 

 

 

Leamos bien y veremos que tambien habla de corrupcion, impuestos confiscatorios, el escape de las inversiones.

 

Si alguein quiere traducirlo objetivamente se lo agradeceremos.

 

Salud !!!

[nachonacho]

Respuesta: Consejos a Obama......

 

En aras a la verdad "periodistica" esta es una carta-opinion al Editor del diario.

 

Es una "contribucion" de Ian Mount, autor del proximo libro 'Los viñedos del fin del mundo: los viñateros Maverick y el renacimiento del malbec'.

 

Op-Ed Contributor

 

Argentina’s Turnaround Tango

 

By IAN MOUNT

 

Published: September 1, 2011

 

 

 

ARGENTINA may seem like one of the last countries on earth to offer lessons for dealing with economic malaise. Once the eighth-largest economy in the world, it steadily slid through the 20th century, thanks to decades of repressive dictatorships and inconsistent market experiments.

 

This ended ignominiously in 2001, when it defaulted on $100 billion in sovereign debt, plunging over half its 35 million people into poverty.

 

That, at least, is the Argentina people know. Since then, it has performed an economic U-turn — an achievement largely unnoticed outside Latin America, but one that President Obama and Congress should look to for inspiration.

 

Argentina is not without problems, but its recent economic record speaks for itself: the economy has grown by over 6 percent a year for seven of the last eight years, unemployment has been cut to under 8 percent today from over 20 percent in 2002, and the poverty level has fallen by almost half over the last decade. The streets of Buenos Aires are choked with cars as Argentines are on track to buy some 800,000 new vehicles this year; the wine mecca of Mendoza is full of high-end tasting rooms, hotels and restaurants offering regional haute cuisine; and plasma TVs and BlackBerrys have become household staples among the urban middle class.

 

Argentina has regained its prosperity partly out of dumb luck: a commodity price boom has vastly benefitted this soy, corn and wheat producer. But it has also prospered thanks to smart economic measures. The government intervened to keep the value of its currency low, which boosts local industry by making Argentina’s exports cheaper abroad while keeping foreign imports expensive.

 

It then taxed those imports and exports, using the money to pay for a New Deal-like public works binge, increasing government spending to 25 percent of G.D.P. today from 14 percent in 2003. As a result, the country has 400,000 new low-income housing units, as well as a long-delayed, 235-mile highway between the northern cities of Rosario and Córdoba.

 

It has also strengthened its social safety net: the Universal Child Allowance, started in 2009 with support from both the ruling party and the opposition, gives 1.9 million low-income families a monthly stipend of about $42 per child, which helps increase consumption. Because the amount depends in part on how often the child attends school, it is also likely to improve the country’s long-term educational performance.

 

The results have also paid off politically: President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner recently won about 50 percent of the vote in an open primary against nine other presidential candidates.

 

Why have Argentines embraced bigger government? In part because the preceding era showed how poorly austerity measures — the sort now being pushed by conservatives in the United States — promote growth. In the late 1990s, Argentina cut government spending drastically on the order of its lenders at the International Monetary Fund. Predictably, between 1998 and 2002, Argentina’s economy shrank by almost 20 percent. It was only after Argentina turned its back on these austerity demands, and defaulted on its debt, that it began to recover.

 

Of course, Argentina is far from perfect: the import and export taxes have scared away some foreign investment, while high spending has pushed inflation well over 20 percent. There are also problems with the way Argentina is run: corruption, government opacity, authoritarian tendencies, confiscatory taxes and a temptation to tweak unpleasant inflation statistics. And it would be laughable to suggest that the United States follow its lead and default on its debt.

 

But Argentina still offers valuable lessons. For one thing, extreme cost-cutting during a stagnant economic period will only inhibit growth. And government spending to promote local industry, pro-job infrastructure programs and unemployment benefits does not turn a country into a kind of Soviet parody. It puts money in the pockets of average citizens, who then spend it and spur the economy. Spending cuts need to be made when times improve — an imperative Argentina is struggling with now — but not before.

 

Argentina is hardly a perfect parallel for the United States. But the stark difference between its austere policies and low growth of the late 1990s and the pro-government, high-growth 2000s offers a test case for how to get an economy moving again. Washington would do well to pay attention.

 

Ian Mount is the author of the forthcoming book “The Vineyard at the End of the World: Maverick Winemakers and the Rebirth of Malbec.”

 

 

 

Leamos bien y veremos que tambien habla de corrupcion, impuestos confiscatorios, el escape de las inversiones.

 

Si alguein quiere traducirlo objetivamente se lo agradeceremos.

 

Salud !!!

 

porque no la traduce al ruso, asi todos entendemos

 

Saludos y a sus MÁS GRATAS ÓRDENES

[nachonacho]

Respuesta: Consejos a Obama......

 

Como era de esperar, la versión de Nacho censura las partes que no les conviene a los K.

En el momento en que leí la nota original imaginé que no iba a tardar en estar en este foro, en 678 y en todos los medios oficialistas, pero "resumida" con lo "escencial" según los K, o sea, sin críticas.

 

Por lo visto, no me equivoqué.

 

yo no censuro nada, en todo caso el foriasta que la publico en ingles que publique la versión en español(para que todos la puedan leer, eso es censura, ), y ahi hablamos.......

 

ladran sancho, señal que cacarean.....

 

saludos y a sus más gratas órdenes

[Invitado Anoshvan]

Respuesta: Consejos a Obama......

 

En aras a la verdad "periodistica" esta es una carta-opinion al Editor del diario.

 

Es una "contribucion" de Ian Mount, autor del proximo libro 'Los viñedos del fin del mundo: los viñateros Maverick y el renacimiento del malbec'.

 

Op-Ed Contributor

 

Argentina’s Turnaround Tango

 

By IAN MOUNT

 

Published: September 1, 2011

 

 

 

ARGENTINA may seem like one of the last countries on earth to offer lessons for dealing with economic malaise. Once the eighth-largest economy in the world, it steadily slid through the 20th century, thanks to decades of repressive dictatorships and inconsistent market experiments.

 

This ended ignominiously in 2001, when it defaulted on $100 billion in sovereign debt, plunging over half its 35 million people into poverty.

 

That, at least, is the Argentina people know. Since then, it has performed an economic U-turn — an achievement largely unnoticed outside Latin America, but one that President Obama and Congress should look to for inspiration.

 

Argentina is not without problems, but its recent economic record speaks for itself: the economy has grown by over 6 percent a year for seven of the last eight years, unemployment has been cut to under 8 percent today from over 20 percent in 2002, and the poverty level has fallen by almost half over the last decade. The streets of Buenos Aires are choked with cars as Argentines are on track to buy some 800,000 new vehicles this year; the wine mecca of Mendoza is full of high-end tasting rooms, hotels and restaurants offering regional haute cuisine; and plasma TVs and BlackBerrys have become household staples among the urban middle class.

 

Argentina has regained its prosperity partly out of dumb luck: a commodity price boom has vastly benefitted this soy, corn and wheat producer. But it has also prospered thanks to smart economic measures. The government intervened to keep the value of its currency low, which boosts local industry by making Argentina’s exports cheaper abroad while keeping foreign imports expensive.

 

It then taxed those imports and exports, using the money to pay for a New Deal-like public works binge, increasing government spending to 25 percent of G.D.P. today from 14 percent in 2003. As a result, the country has 400,000 new low-income housing units, as well as a long-delayed, 235-mile highway between the northern cities of Rosario and Córdoba.

 

It has also strengthened its social safety net: the Universal Child Allowance, started in 2009 with support from both the ruling party and the opposition, gives 1.9 million low-income families a monthly stipend of about $42 per child, which helps increase consumption. Because the amount depends in part on how often the child attends school, it is also likely to improve the country’s long-term educational performance.

 

The results have also paid off politically: President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner recently won about 50 percent of the vote in an open primary against nine other presidential candidates.

 

Why have Argentines embraced bigger government? In part because the preceding era showed how poorly austerity measures — the sort now being pushed by conservatives in the United States — promote growth. In the late 1990s, Argentina cut government spending drastically on the order of its lenders at the International Monetary Fund. Predictably, between 1998 and 2002, Argentina’s economy shrank by almost 20 percent. It was only after Argentina turned its back on these austerity demands, and defaulted on its debt, that it began to recover.

 

Of course, Argentina is far from perfect: the import and export taxes have scared away some foreign investment, while high spending has pushed inflation well over 20 percent. There are also problems with the way Argentina is run: corruption, government opacity, authoritarian tendencies, confiscatory taxes and a temptation to tweak unpleasant inflation statistics. And it would be laughable to suggest that the United States follow its lead and default on its debt.

 

 

 

But Argentina still offers valuable lessons. For one thing, extreme cost-cutting during a stagnant economic period will only inhibit growth. And government spending to promote local industry, pro-job infrastructure programs and unemployment benefits does not turn a country into a kind of Soviet parody. It puts money in the pockets of average citizens, who then spend it and spur the economy. Spending cuts need to be made when times improve — an imperative Argentina is struggling with now — but not before.

 

Argentina is hardly a perfect parallel for the United States. But the stark difference between its austere policies and low growth of the late 1990s and the pro-government, high-growth 2000s offers a test case for how to get an economy moving again. Washington would do well to pay attention.

 

Ian Mount is the author of the forthcoming book “The Vineyard at the End of the World: Maverick Winemakers and the Rebirth of Malbec.”

 

 

 

Leamos bien y veremos que tambien habla de corrupcion, impuestos confiscatorios, el escape de las inversiones.

 

Si alguein quiere traducirlo objetivamente se lo agradeceremos.

 

Salud !!!

 

La parte obviada...

 

Por supuesto, la Argentina está lejos de ser perfecta: la importación y los impuestos de exportación han ahuyentado la inversión extranjera, mientras que la inflación ha llegado a más de un 20 por ciento. También hay problemas con la forma en que se ejecuta Argentina: la corrupción, la opacidad del gobierno, las tendencias autoritarias, los impuestos confiscatorios y la tentación de retocar desagradablemente las estadisticas de la inflación.

Y sería ridículo sugerir que los Estados Unidos sigan su ejemplo y pagar su deuda.

 

Maso...

 

Si vamos a copiar, vamos a copiar todo, ji, ji...

[Reylagarto]

Respuesta: Consejos a Obama......

 

Que nada menos que el "New York Times" sugiera que USA deberia copiar a Argentina en sus medidas económicas para salir de su crisis y ponerse en marcha..... Quién lo hubiera pensado no?

[eder]

Respuesta: Consejos a Obama......

 

porque no la traduce al ruso, asi todos entendemos

 

Saludos y a sus MÁS GRATAS ÓRDENES

 

 

Timermam se lo puede traducir !!!

Pero seria mas entretenido que la hiciera Rabinovich de Les Luthiers.

 

Аргентина может выглядеть как одной из последних стран на земле, чтобы уроки для преодоления экономических недугов. После восьмой по величине экономика в мире, он неуклонно оползла через 20-го века, благодаря десятилетиями репрессивной диктатуры и непоследовательными рынка экспериментов.

 

Это позорное закончился в 2001 году, когда она дефолт по $100 миллиардов в суверенной задолженности, обрекая более половины ее 35 миллионов людей на нищету.

 

Это, по крайней мере, является Аргентина, люди знают. С тех пор он исполнил экономических разворот — достижение значительной степени незамеченным за пределами Латинской Америки, но что Obama президент и Конгресс должен выглядеть для вдохновения.

 

Аргентина не без проблем, но ее недавней говорит само за себя: экономика выросла более чем на 6 процентов в год в течение семи последних восьми лет, безработица сократилась до менее 8 процентов сегодня из более чем 20 процентов в 2002 году и уровень бедности сократился почти наполовину в течение последнего десятилетия. На улицах Буэнос-Айреса душил с автомобилями, аргентинцы находятся на пути к купить около 800 000 новых автомобилей в этом году; Вино Мекку Мендоса полна элитного дегустационные залы, гостиниц и ресторанов, предлагающих региональных haute кухня; и плазменных телевизоров и BlackBerrys стали бытовые товары среди городских среднего класса.

 

Аргентина вновь обрел свое процветание частично от немой удачи: Бум цен на сырьевые товары значительно выиграли этот производитель соя, кукуруза и пшеница. Но также он процветал благодаря мерам смарт-экономических. Правительство вмешались, чтобы сохранить значение своей валюты Лоу, который увеличивает местной промышленности, сделав Аргентины экспортирует дешевле за рубежом при сохранении иностранного импорта дорогостоящей.

 

Он затем налогом эти импорта и экспорта, используя деньги платить за разгул новый курс подобных общественных работ, увеличение государственных расходов на 25 процентов от G.D.P. сегодня от 14 процентов в 2003 году. В результате страна имеет 400 000 новых единиц жилья с низким уровнем дохода, а также давно назревших, 235-мильной шоссе между северные города Росарио и Кордоба.

 

Она также укрепила свои системы социальной защиты: универсальный пособия на ребенка, запущен в 2009 году при поддержке со стороны правящей партии и оппозиции, дает 1,9 миллиона малоимущих семей ежемесячную стипендию около $42 каждого ребенка, который помогает увеличить потребление. Потому что сумма частично зависит от как часто ребенок посещает школу, это также может улучшить долгосрочные учебные показатели этой страны.

 

Результаты также окупились политически: президент Кристина Фернандес де Киршнер недавно получила около 50 процентов голосов в открытой начальных против девяти других кандидатов в президенты.

 

Почему аргентинцы обнимали больше правительства? Отчасти потому, что предыдущей эпохи показало, насколько плохо мер жесткой экономии — сортировка, в настоящее время толкаемых консерваторы в Соединенных Штатах — содействовать росту. В конце 90-х годов Аргентина сократить государственные расходы резко ордена его кредиторами на Международный валютный фонд. Как и ожидалось между 1998 и 2002 годах, экономика Аргентины сократился почти на 20%. Было только после того, как Аргентина отвернулось от этих жестких требований и дефолт по своей задолженности, что он начал восстанавливаться.

 

Конечно, Аргентина является далека от совершенства: импортных и экспортных налогов страшно от некоторых иностранных инвестиций, в то время как высокие расходы подтолкнуло инфляции более 20 процентов. Существуют также проблемы с тем, как запускать Аргентина: коррупции, правительство непрозрачность, авторитарные тенденции, конфискационных налогов и искушение для настройки статистики неприятные инфляции. И было бы смешно о том, что Соединенные Штаты следовать его свинца и по умолчанию по своей задолженности.

 

Но Аргентина по-прежнему предлагает ценные уроки. Во-первых крайней экономии период стагнации экономического только будет сдерживать рост. И государственные расходы для поощрения местной промышленности, pro-job инфраструктуры программы и пособия по безработице не превратить страну в своего рода советской пародия. Она кладет деньги в карманах рядовых граждан, которые затем потратить и стимулирования экономики. Расходов необходимость сокращения, когда раз улучшить — настоятельно необходимо Аргентина борется с сейчас — но не раньше.

 

Аргентина является едва ли идеальный параллельно для Соединенных Штатов. Но резко разница между его строгая политика и низких темпов роста в конце 90-х и проправительственные, высокими темпами роста х предлагает теста для как получить экономики вновь. Вашингтон будет делать хорошо обращать внимание.

 

Ян гора является автором предстоящих книга «виноградник в конце мира: Maverick виноделов и возрождение Мальбек. "

Editado 3 de Septiembre del 2011 por eder
sugerir traductor

[Muscle-Teens]

Respuesta: Consejos a Obama......

 

Gracias Eder sos un justiciero...!!

Hay una tendencia en los diarios oficialistas a tomar solo secciones de los dichos de algun medio, los dichos que les favorecen...!!

Sin perjuicio de reconocer el merito de las politicas economicas del Gobierno, que han permitido un 6 % de crecimiento promedio en los ultimos ocho años...!!

 

Cito un parrafo del mencionado articulo, poco mencionado por algunos medios....!!

 

Of course, Argentina is far from perfect: the import and export taxes have scared away some foreign investment, while high spending has pushed inflation well over 20 percent. There are also problems with the way Argentina is run: corruption, government opacity, authoritarian tendencies, confiscatory taxes and a temptation to tweak unpleasant inflation statistics. And it would be laughable to suggest that the United States follow its lead and default on its debt. ......"""

Traduccion Libre....!!

Por supuesto , la Argentina esta lejos de ser perfecta: las tasas aduaneras sobre exportaciones e importaciones han ahuyentado algunos inversores extranjeros, en el intertanto el consumo ha empujado la inflacion muy por encima del 20%.

Hay asimismo problemas en como se maneja la Argentina: Corrupcion, poca transparencia del Gobierno, tendencias autoritarias, impuestos confiscatorios y la tentación de manipular desfavorables estadisticas sobre la inflacion. Y seria Risible sugerir que los EE.UU. deberia seguir su pauta y defaultear la deuda...!!

[Invitado Anoshvan]

Respuesta: Consejos a Obama......

 

Аргентина может выглядеть как одной из последних стран на земле, чтобы уроки для преодоления экономических недугов. После восьмой по величине экономика в мире, он неуклонно оползла через 20-го века, благодаря десятилетиями репрессивной диктатуры и непоследовательными рынка экспериментов.

 

Это позорное закончился в 2001 году, когда она дефолт по $100 миллиардов в суверенной задолженности, обрекая более половины ее 35 миллионов людей на нищету.

 

Это, по крайней мере, является Аргентина, люди знают. С тех пор он исполнил экономических разворот — достижение значительной степени незамеченным за пределами Латинской Америки, но что Obama президент и Конгресс должен выглядеть для вдохновения.

 

Аргентина не без проблем, но ее недавней говорит само за себя: экономика выросла более чем на 6 процентов в год в течение семи последних восьми лет, безработица сократилась до менее 8 процентов сегодня из более чем 20 процентов в 2002 году и уровень бедности сократился почти наполовину в течение последнего десятилетия. На улицах Буэнос-Айреса душил с автомобилями, аргентинцы находятся на пути к купить около 800 000 новых автомобилей в этом году; Вино Мекку Мендоса полна элитного дегустационные залы, гостиниц и ресторанов, предлагающих региональных haute кухня; и плазменных телевизоров и BlackBerrys стали бытовые товары среди городских среднего класса.

 

Аргентина вновь обрел свое процветание частично от немой удачи: Бум цен на сырьевые товары значительно выиграли этот производитель соя, кукуруза и пшеница. Но также он процветал благодаря мерам смарт-экономических. Правительство вмешались, чтобы сохранить значение своей валюты Лоу, который увеличивает местной промышленности, сделав Аргентины экспортирует дешевле за рубежом при сохранении иностранного импорта дорогостоящей.

 

Он затем налогом эти импорта и экспорта, используя деньги платить за разгул новый курс подобных общественных работ, увеличение государственных расходов на 25 процентов от G.D.P. сегодня от 14 процентов в 2003 году. В результате страна имеет 400 000 новых единиц жилья с низким уровнем дохода, а также давно назревших, 235-мильной шоссе между северные города Росарио и Кордоба.

 

Она также укрепила свои системы социальной защиты: универсальный пособия на ребенка, запущен в 2009 году при поддержке со стороны правящей партии и оппозиции, дает 1,9 миллиона малоимущих семей ежемесячную стипендию около $42 каждого ребенка, который помогает увеличить потребление. Потому что сумма частично зависит от как часто ребенок посещает школу, это также может улучшить долгосрочные учебные показатели этой страны.

 

Результаты также окупились политически: президент Кристина Фернандес де Киршнер недавно получила около 50 процентов голосов в открытой начальных против девяти других кандидатов в президенты.

 

Почему аргентинцы обнимали больше правительства? Отчасти потому, что предыдущей эпохи показало, насколько плохо мер жесткой экономии — сортировка, в настоящее время толкаемых консерваторы в Соединенных Штатах — содействовать росту. В конце 90-х годов Аргентина сократить государственные расходы резко ордена его кредиторами на Международный валютный фонд. Как и ожидалось между 1998 и 2002 годах, экономика Аргентины сократился почти на 20%. Было только после того, как Аргентина отвернулось от этих жестких требований и дефолт по своей задолженности, что он начал восстанавливаться.

 

Конечно, Аргентина является далека от совершенства: импортных и экспортных налогов страшно от некоторых иностранных инвестиций, в то время как высокие расходы подтолкнуло инфляции более 20 процентов. Существуют также проблемы с тем, как запускать Аргентина: коррупции, правительство непрозрачность, авторитарные тенденции, конфискационных налогов и искушение для настройки статистики неприятные инфляции. И было бы смешно о том, что Соединенные Штаты следовать его свинца и по умолчанию по своей задолженности.

 

Но Аргентина по-прежнему предлагает ценные уроки. Во-первых крайней экономии период стагнации экономического только будет сдерживать рост. И государственные расходы для поощрения местной промышленности, pro-job инфраструктуры программы и пособия по безработице не превратить страну в своего рода советской пародия. Она кладет деньги в карманах рядовых граждан, которые затем потратить и стимулирования экономики. Расходов необходимость сокращения, когда раз улучшить — настоятельно необходимо Аргентина борется с сейчас — но не раньше.

 

Аргентина является едва ли идеальный параллельно для Соединенных Штатов. Но резко разница между его строгая политика и низких темпов роста в конце 90-х и проправительственные, высокими темпами роста х предлагает теста для как получить экономики вновь. Вашингтон будет делать хорошо обращать внимание.

 

Ян гора является автором предстоящих книга «виноградник в конце мира: Maverick виноделов и возрождение Мальбек. "

 

Juaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...

Genial Eder, todavía le duele el tuje...

 

pd: apenas puede con el castellano...

[Reylagarto]

Respuesta: Consejos a Obama......

 

Gracias Eder sos un justiciero...!!

Hay una tendencia en los diarios oficialistas a tomar solo secciones de los dichos de algun medio, los dichos que les favorecen...!!

Sin perjuicio de reconocer el merito de las politicas economicas del Gobierno, que han permitido un 6 % de crecimiento promedio en los ultimos ocho años...!!

 

Cito un parrafo del mencionado articulo, poco mencionado por algunos medios....!!

 

Of course, Argentina is far from perfect: the import and export taxes have scared away some foreign investment, while high spending has pushed inflation well over 20 percent. There are also problems with the way Argentina is run: corruption, government opacity, authoritarian tendencies, confiscatory taxes and a temptation to tweak unpleasant inflation statistics. And it would be laughable to suggest that the United States follow its lead and default on its debt. ......"""

 

Traduccion Libre....!!

Por supuesto , la Argentina esta lejos de ser perfecta: las tasas aduaneras sobre exportaciones e importaciones han ahuyentado algunos inversores extranjeros, en el intertanto el consumo ha empujado la inflacion muy por encima del 20%.

Hay asimismo problemas en como se maneja la Argentina: Corrupcion, poca transparencia del Gobierno, tendencias autoritarias, impuestos confiscatorios y la tentación de manipular desfavorables estadisticas sobre la inflacion. Y seria Risible sugerir que los EE.UU. deberia seguir su pauta y defaultear la deuda...!!

 

 

 

 

Mejor y más fiel traducción que la primera que habian hecho... pero me llama la atención como las dos marcan en negrita una frase que el autor usa en condicional como contraproposición para vincularla con lo que verdaderamente quiere expresar..... al final de esa frase hay un PERO enorme, que no traducen ... DE HECHO... el sentido de la nota es SUGERIR QUE LOS EEUU DEBERIAN SEGUIR LA PAUTA ARGENTINA!!

 

(Después se quejan de la Ley de Medios y como seria usada por el Gobierno para coartar la libertad de prensa, cuando ustedes no pueden hacer una traducción de un párrafo de una nota en un foro de tachos, sin tergirversar y manipular las ideas del autor).

 

ahh y si, los medios oficialistas tomaron en cuenta solo secciones de la nota... pero también hay que decir que los medios no oficialistas (el 90% ? el monopolio mediatico?) no tomo en cuenta ni una palabra de esta nota..!!

[eder]

Respuesta: Consejos a Obama......

 

Articulo del mismo autor.

 

Si ven bien.... (traduccion objetiva, ya!)

 

El autor lleva mas de 5 años viviendo en Buenos Aires y seguro mas de alguno de Uds., se lo ha topado en algun boliche.

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A Small Place

 

Nearly half the Falkland Islanders are immigrants. What draws people to a grim chunk of rock in the South Atlantic?

 

By Ian MountPosted Saturday, May 9, 2009, at 7:28 AM ET

 

 

 

Stanley's tourist dock, where daytrippers are ferried ashoreSTANLEY, Falkland Islands—It came as no surprise that the Stanley Arms pub served Cornish pasties and Strongbow Cider, or that the youngest of the three guys stooled up at the bar was complaining that Britain wasn't as it used to be—why, recently, an English lady he tried to help with her groceries practically slugged him, she was so scared of being mugged. After all, I was in Stanley, the capital of the Falkland Islands, which are a kind of superdistillate of Englishness in the same way that, say, Baghdad's Green Zone is an über-U.S.A. as designed by Burger King. What was curious was that the bartender, K.J., was one of the 150 or so Saints who live on the Islands. Not saints of the religious variety, but African-descended immigrants from the tiny tropical island of St. Helena, a place most famous for being Napoleon's final prison exile. Oddly, considering the 1982 war that Britain fought with Argentina over the Falklands, K.J. was wearing the soccer jersey of Club Atlético Independiente, a premier league team based in the suburbs of Buenos Aires. He wasn't exactly the image of your typical English "Kelper," as islanders are known.

 

 

 

For decades, the Falkland Islands have been a mix of punch line and trivia question, its popular image that of a few hundred boozy, inbred sheep farmers living on a rock in the South Atlantic. During the so-called Falklands conflict, British troops memorably dubbed the locals "Bennies" after Benny Hawkins, the village-idiot character in the British soap opera Crossroads. And, indeed, after going for a run on my second day on the islands and finding myself held still by the famous driving winds, I wondered why a dimwitted penguin, much less a sentient human adult, would willingly move there. The word grim comes to mind: Besides sandpaper winds, the islands are blessed with a skin-frying ozone hole, a near complete lack of trees, and import-dependent stores where sad tomatoes fetch $4.15 a pound (about twice what FreshDirect charges in Manhattan).

 

But there they were: gaggles of immigrants. Every five years, the islands conduct a census with the Orwellian precision that is possible only on remote islands with a population of 2,478. Besides enumerating statistical curiosities—the number of dishwashers, for example, rose from 130 in 1996 to 338 a decade later—the census notes the surprising facts that only 53.2 percent of the 2006 population was born on the islands, and 25 languages other than English are spoken in Falkland homes. Among the immigrants are 650 U.K.-born residents, plenty of them Kelpers whose parents had moved to the United Kingdom to look for work and who themselves returned after the conflict. But there are also 153 Saints, 131 Chileans, 36 Australians, 26 New Zealanders, and a sprinkling of Germans, Russians, Indonesians, and Filipinos. Even an Argentine or two.

 

 

At the end of the war Argentine soldiers abandoned their weaponsThe 1982 conflict reminded the British government of the islands' existence. After the war, the government set up a ₤45 million reconstruction-and-development fund for the Falklands and declared the nearby fishing grounds and oil fields property of the islanders, which uncorked an economic boom that turned the Falklands into the polycultural economic beacon it is today. One British diplomat told me one of her colleagues jokes that the islanders should raise a monument to Leopoldo Galtieri, the Argentine military dictator who had the brilliant idea of invading the islands to save his fading government, Wag the Dog-style.

The recent wave of immigration lends the islands the atmosphere of a South Seas Qatar, where foreign workers are imported to do the work that locals can't or won't (although, to the Falklands' credit, they offer a clear path to residency and British citizenship). Chileans and Saints work in restaurants and stores, Russians do marine research, an Englishman runs the tourist bureau, and the head of the local bank is from Indonesia. It's a weirdly exclusive group, given that if you want to stay, the only way to get through the British military air base at Mount Pleasant (the only access to the islands) is to have a pre-arranged job contract with a company that has signed a form of bond taking responsibility for you. With such a strict entry regime, unless you're a cruise-ship day-tripper or a birdwatcher who has flown in on holiday, the only way to be unemployed on the islands is to be a resident retiree or an unemployable, native-born drunk.

 

There's the attraction of money, of course—the islands have a higher GDP-per-capita than Germany—but the immigrants also form a kind of Dark Side of the Moon Club of the desperate, nostalgic, adventurous, or just plain bored. After arriving, many get addicted to Stanley's Truman Show small-town perfection and find it impossible to move back to mean city streets—or merely to busy suburbs. The work day runs from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m., with an hour for lunch, invariably taken at home. Phone numbers are only five digits long. And the idea of locking, well, anything is an affront to the community. In such an environment, the current population boomlet (about 400 people have moved to the islands in the last decade) can seem menacing. "I hope they don't find oil. We're already becoming little Britain," says Helen Wallace, a police department criminal-records officer who arrived from Portsmouth, England, in even more bucolic 1991. The threat of urban anonymity does not appear imminent, however: After several days on the islands, my introductions were invariably answered with, "Oh, right! The reporter staying at Arlette's place."

 

A war souvenir in a Stanley driveway"Stories about coming here are always complicated," says Julie Halliday, who arrived from New Zealand in 2001. Halliday came to the islands when her then-husband was hired to be the economic adviser to the government. Following her divorce, she decided to stay for the tranquility (and for the birds she photographs), and today—after a remarriage to a Kelper—she runs Studio 52, Stanley's only graphic-design shop. In 2001, Sebastián Socodo moved from his native Argentina to the islands with his wife, a Kelper who grew up in his country (as many did before the war), to get away from a low-paying paper-mill job just as Argentina's economy began to implode. Today, he's a construction foreman—and a tour guide for returning Argentine veterans. And Chris McLean, burnt out on an urban schedule, brought his wife and two kids from Montreal in 2007 after his wife found an Internet job listing for a Public Works Department design engineer. "After getting a call from a recruiter who said I'd been shortlisted, I had a 30-minute call with my boss here, and that was it.

 

Within three months of sending a résumé, we'd sold our house and moved," he says in the soft monotone of someone who really likes quiet. "The kids have so much freedom, because everybody looks out for them."

Not everyone is aiming to create an island version of Little House on the Prairie, though. Valdimir Laptikhovsky, for example, loves fish. After finding his skills as a fishery scientist in little demand in his home of Kaliningrad after the Russian fishing fleet started to collapse, the ingenuously enthusiastic biologist moved to the islands in 2004 for a job in the Falklands' Fisheries Department. There, he compiles fish statistics, assesses the marine stock, and monitors the squid fishery, which provides the largest chunk of the islands' income. "There are places with better climates and more access to civilization, but I would never have such scientific freedom. You should have 300 scientists in such an ecosystem. We only have seven, so there's no competition for scientific materials," he says. Behind us, Laptikhovsky's second wife—his first one, unhappy on the islands, moved with their two children to nearby Chile—applies extensions to an islander's nails. In Russia, she'd been an assistant to an insurance company director, "always with a cell phone in her hand, so she could be available for people who had had car crashes."

 

In his clandestine Falklands-filmed movie Fuckland, Argentine director José Luis Marqués fantasized about retaking the islands by impregnating local women. Similarly, Buenos Aires-based Ezequiel Gatti, who leads Argentine veterans on Falklands tours, told me that Argentina would have had better luck conquering the islands in 1982 if it had sent several boats of beautiful Argentine women. Judging from the continued flow of immigration, however, Argentina's chance of conquering desperate islanders by procreative means seems to have passed. Victoria Guisande came from Punta Arenas, Chile, in January 2009 to work as a meatpacker in the local slaughterhouse, where she could earn 10 times the Chilean minimum wage. "I've already met an Englishman who's been here nine years, and he's asked me to marry him. We want a baby. My son is 19 years old, and I only have a little time to have another one. It was always my dream to have a daughter," says Guisande. "I think this place was my destiny."

 

Preocupante no!?

 

No sera un agente encubierto del imperio?

 

La Sra. Garre deberia investigar, seguro ya leyo este articulo.

Editado 3 de Septiembre del 2011 por eder
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[Invitado Anoshvan]

Respuesta: Consejos a Obama......

 

Mejor y más fiel traducción que la primera que habian hecho... pero me llama la atención como las dos marcan en negrita una frase que el autor usa en condicional como contraproposición para vincularla con lo que verdaderamente quiere expresar..... al final de esa frase hay un PERO enorme, que no traducen ... DE HECHO... el sentido de la nota es SUGERIR QUE LOS EEUU DEBERIAN SEGUIR LA PAUTA ARGENTINA!!

 

(Después se quejan de la Ley de Medios y como seria usada por el Gobierno para coartar la libertad de prensa, cuando ustedes no pueden hacer una traducción de un párrafo de una nota en un foro de tachos, sin tergirversar y manipular las ideas del autor).

 

ahh y si, los medios oficialistas tomaron en cuenta solo secciones de la nota... pero también hay que decir que los medios no oficialistas (el 90% ? el monopolio mediatico?) no tomo en cuenta ni una palabra de esta nota..!!

 

But Argentina still offers valuable lessons.

"Pero Argentina todavía ofrece valiosas lecciones...", no está al final de la frase resaltada en negrita, sino es el comienzo de otra.

 

No jodan...

El autor del thread copio una información obviando una parte de ella y ahora nosotros somos los responsables de no hacer una traducción correcta.

O parcialista...

 

 

 

Si me criticas a mí, tene el buen juicio de criticar al que lo pego originalmente, porque si yo "manipule" la información, el otro también lo hizo.

[Invitado Psichoboy]

Respuesta: Consejos a Obama......

 

Hay una tendencia en los diarios oficialistas a tomar solo secciones de los dichos de algun medio, los dichos que les favorecen...!!

Sin perjuicio de reconocer el merito de las politicas economicas del Gobierno, que han permitido un 6 % de crecimiento promedio en los ultimos ocho años...!!

 

En aras a la verdad "periodistica" ...

 

Eder, en aras de la verdad periodística, la respuesta de Muscle es correcta pero incompleta. Faltó decir que los medios anti-oficilistas hacen exactamente lo mismo, recurren a la fabulación o a la mitomanía en el peor de los casos cuando el relato de la noticia no favorece sus intereses, si bien es una obviedad no está demás repetirlo: su principal interés es sacar a Cristina de la forma que fuere... por eso vivimos en un estado de inseguridad informativa, y las noticias independientes y objetivas hay que "bucearlas".

 

Después de todo la parcialidad con la que atacan unos, justifica el contaataque -tb parcial- con el que se defienden los otros... como cuando hablan mal de un amigo tuyo y salis a defenderlo con lo mejor que tenes.:thumbup1: