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Documental: El poder de las pesadillas

 

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Lo que pasa es que lamentablemente el poder econòmico mundial lo tienen una docena de familias, mas alla de si son adoradoras de lucifer y bebedoras de sangre o no, es una herencia que traen en los gènes, ademàs es una tradiciòn para las susodichas la de esclavizar a todo aquel que no pertenezca a su linaje porque lo consideran un ser inferior...

 

fuè vomitiva la cobertura que C5N le diò a la boda real del hijo mayor del que solo los giles creen que tiene sangre azul, como si esos hijos de puta fuesen capaces de caminar sobre la aguas, y en el mejor de los casos hacer llover el mana del cielo en regiones realmente pobres en todo el mundo.

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A 10 años del 11-S, Bin Laden planeaba atacar los trenes de Estados Unidos

 

Según documentación encontrada en la residencia de Osama y difundida por el FBI, la red Al Qaeda evaluaba atentar contra la red de ferrocarriles.

 

 

 

05.05.2011 | 22:00

 

El atentado a las torres gemelas

 

La red Al Qaeda liderada por el recientemente muerto Osama Bin Laden evaluaba hace pocos meses atacar a trenes estadounidenses para marcar el décimo aniversario de los atentados del 11 de setiembre, indicó el gobierno estadounidense.

 

 

 

La advertencia interna del Departamento de Seguridad Nacional y la Oficina Federal de Investigaciones (FBI), difundida por medios estadounidenses, indica que "en febrero Al Qaeda supuestamente se planteaba atentar contra trenes en algún lugar de EEUU en el décimo aniversario del 11 de septiembre de 2001".

Una de las opciones, explica el documento, era "manipular los raíles de manera que el tren cayera de la vía en un valle o en un puente".

Según los medios, esta advertencia se emite basada en la información que se ha comenzado a extraer de los documentos y material electrónico hallado en la residencia de Abbottabad, en las cercanías de Islamabad, donde comandos estadounidenses abatieron a Bin Laden el pasado domingo.

Sin embargo, el Departamento de Seguridad Nacional ha puntualizado que carece de indicios de que esa posible trama hubiera llegado a ponerse en marcha y se encontraba aún tan sólo en la categoría de "aspiración", algo que a Al Qaeda le gustaría hacer.

El Departamento y el FBI alientan a las autoridades locales a mantenerse vigilantes, aunque subrayan que no emiten una alerta terrorista debido a la inexistencia de datos específicos o creíbles que apunten a un plan en marcha.

 

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Russian Whistleblower Dimitri Khalezov Says U.S. And Russia Are Framing Former Russian Military Officer Viktor Bout

Russian Whistleblower Dimitri Khalezov Says U.S. And Russia Are Framing Former Russian Military Officer Viktor Bout.

"This is a strange new kind of war where you learn just as much as you are able to believe." - Ernest Hemingway

"The numbers out of the Pentagon are baffling, as if Military Censorship has already been imposed on the media. It is ominous. The only news on TV comes from weeping victims and ignorant speculators.

The lid is on. Loose Lips Sink Ships. Don't say anything that might give aid to The Enemy." - Hunter S. Thompson

 

"It's still disorderly, with mysteries forever abounding, but at least get a glimpse of what played out, those very things they don't want us to ever know, as our history becomes one massive National Security Secret." -

The 9/11 cover story is falling apart, but as we get closer to the tenth anniversary of the catastrophic attacks more disinformation and propaganda will be directed against the American people, U.S. government officials, and the global public about the nature of the attacks. As usual, when one public version of a historical event breaks down, the masters of lies who secretly operate the U.S. state terror network get to work on inventing new lies and creating new scapegoats in order to satisfy the public's reawakened imagination as well as to comfort the suspicions of higher-level bureaucrats, government officials, and politicians.

 

One of the biggest holes in the official 9/11 story is the attack on the Pentagon. The U.S. government's states that a Boeing 757 airplane hit the Pentagon but the facts don't bear this out. The damage on the side of the Pentagon wall showed no signs of wing marks from an airplane. A CNN reporter was on the ground after the attack happened, and this is what he

said: "From my close-up inspection there is no evidence of a plane having crashed anywhere near the Pentagon."

 

So far, the U.S. government has refused to release video footage that captured the attack. If such evidence were to be released in the future, it may answer some questions, or it may raise new questions, depending on how such evidence is leaked to the media, and how it is presented to the public.

 

 

According to Dimitri Khalezov, a former Soviet military officer who specialized in nuclear intelligence, the Soviet-built

P-700 Granit Missile struck the Pentagon on September 11, 2001. In an interview with researcher and author Daniel Estulin on October 14, 2010, Khalezov said that in order to cover up this crime and save face the U.S. and Russian governments are cooperating together to find a fall guy. The guy's name is Viktor Bout, a former Russian military officer, and an alleged arms trafficker. J. Bruce Campbell writes in Veterans Today that Bout "established an air freight business in war-torn Africa when the other companies shut down their operations due to unpredictable violence in many African countries. Victor stepped in with his fleet of well-used but serviceable cargo haulers and did quite well for some years. When the violence subsided, the competitors got going again and arranged for Victor's business to be excluded. He finally gave up and returned to Russia."

 

Bout was

arrested in Bangkok, Thailand on March 6, 2008 by Thailand's police for "attempting to procure weapons for Colombia's FARC rebels." On November 17, 2010, Bout was extradited to the United States to stand trial on terrorism charges, after a two-year battle in the Thai court system.

 

On the surface Bout seems like what U.S. authorities say he is, a depraved and merciless arms dealer, but, as it is often said, appearances can be deceiving. There's more to the story. Khalezov has tirelessly helped with Bout's legal defense for the past three years, and has the facts to prove that Bout is innocent. He says that Bout has been betrayed by his own government, which has played the good cop in public, but has acted treacherously behind the scenes by undermining Bout's case from the very beginning. It makes sense why the bad cop in this covert relationship, the United States government, wants Bout's head on a platter, but why does the Russian government want to crucify its own soldier? Khalezov has the answer, telling Estulin:

The Americans, understandably, demand from the Russians to find
a fall guy or a patsy
(or a group of fall guys) who is/are
responsible for the missile that was found in the middle of the Pentagon.
Considering that the missile was actually nuclear-tipped (with a half-megaton thermo-nuclear warhead that is more than 25 times the size of the Hiroshima bomb) you can imagine that the Americans are quite insistent with their demands to the Russians to find, at last, the culprit and to surrender him to the US Justice. It is indeed serious. But when it comes to the Russians, they can not admit the truth -- that the "Granit" missile with its thermo-nuclear warhead was stolen from the sunken "Kursk" submarine,
because Putin back in 2000 solemnly declared to the world that there were no nuclear weapons on board of the sunken submarine
.

Khalezov says that a massive propaganda campaign has been directed against Bout. He's been called the "merchant of death" and the 2005 film Lord of War is supposedly based on his life. But these are lies. The demonization of Bout is necessary in order for the public to believe that he is the one who sold the Russian P-700 Granit Missile on the black market to Arab terrorists. The insiders who control the United States government are making a scapegoat out of Bout, just as they did with Osama Bin Laden, Lee Harvey Oswald, and James Earl Ray. It is a familiar pattern. Khalezov's courageous truth-telling is so important because it knocks down the Hollywood myth that has been built around Bout.

 

Of course, none of these scapegoats are "nice guys." Osama Bin Laden was not a nice guy, but he didn't do 9/11, Oswald was a loony but he didn't kill John F. Kennedy. And Viktor Bout didn't sell any missile to any terrorist group. As Oswald's mother

said, "this is a frame up." All of these cases are frame-ups.

 

And the frame ups will go on until we as citizens stop falling for falsehoods. Facts are facts. And myths are myths. We must cast them apart, and stick with the facts. If we don't, then the public will continue to fall for the scapegoat theory every time, which is why criminal governments always pin crimes on innocent scapegoats, whether the Russian government or the U.S. government.

 

We must admit that the entire war on terror is bogus. Nothing the U.S. government says is real. In fact, as writer/photographer George Bailey says in his article

' It's All In The Theater!,' all of modern American history is "one massive National Security Secret." Our job is to expose all of it. We can't leave any stone unturned. We must reclaim history, defend the accused, and put away the rotten criminals and traitors.

 

Thankfully, there are individuals around who are busy exposing U.S. national security secrets that threaten America, and world peace. Some of those individuals are J. Bruce Campbell of the website

Veterans Today , Veterans Today' senior editor Gordon Duff, and author Daniel Estulin. They have helped made Khalezov's explosive revelations about 9/11, the Pentagon, and Viktor Bout more widely known. They deserve credit for their vigilance and reporting. And Khalezov deserves our thanks and appreciation for his courage, honesty and steadfastness.

 

I recommend that you read the following articles/interviews to get a better understanding about Dimitri Khalezov's statements concerning the 9/11 attacks, the Soviet missile that hit the Pentagon, and Viktor Bout's innocence. There's more important information that you should know that is not included in this short article.

JB Campbell: Anatomy of a Frame

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

II. Establishing Narratives For Public Consumption, And Bureaucratic Consumption

 

There is another point that I have to highlight. We all know that it is highly unlikely that U.S. government officials will publicly declare that 9/11 was an inside job, and that the entire story about the attacks was a complete fabrication. After ten years of lies, we can't expect the full and honest truth. The myth about Viktor Bout is not as much for public consumption as it is for people within government who have access to sensitive national security information. As Khalezov makes clear in his interview with Estulin, the public is going to be fed the same script, while high-level officials and politicians who dish out billions of dollars and make key public policy decisions will be told by insiders that the Pentagon wasn't hit by a plane but by a Russian missile called the P-700 Granit. Naturally, a series of questions will pop up in the minds of the nervous beaurcrats and politicians. Questions such as 1) How did a Russian missile get into the hands of Muslim terrorists? 2) Who was capable of stealing this missile from the Russians? 3) Do the Russians know about this? At which point the insiders will answer with the lie, "Notorious arms dealer Viktor Bout came in contact with this missile and sold it to the terrorists, and yes, the Russians know about this but they are embarrassed about this whole thing and don't want to admit in public that one of their valued missiles was stolen."

 

We should remember that the individuals who did 9/11 are very clever and manipulative, with tons of tricks up their sleeves.

 

III. Excerpts From Daniel Estulin's Interview With Russian Whistleblower Dimitri Khalezov

 

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Dimitri Khalezov is seen here working on Viktor Bout's legal case with Viktor Bout's wife Alla Bout in Thailand.

 

Khalezov telling Estulin that US officials need two versions of what happened on 9/11 to satisfy the public, and the bureaucracy:

"Add here that the US officials actually exploit two levels of the "truth" in regard to the WTC demolition during 9/11 events. Just imagine that there are quite a lot of mid-ranking security officials and politicians who are advanced enough to know that kerosene can not "melt steel" into fluffy microscopic dust and that
"ground zero"
in pre-9/11 English language had no other meaning than
"a place of a nuclear explosion".
Therefore
these types of people would not swallow the plebeian version of the "planes brought down the towers 9/11 truth".
Some "higher" and more plausible version of the "truth"
needed to be invented to satisfy them
. So according to the intermediate level of the 9/11 "truth" (that is intended to satisfy the mid-ranking security officials and mid-ranking politicians both in America and abroad), the
Twin Towers
of the
WTC
, as well as the
building #7
of the
WTC
, were demolished by
3 mini-nukes
that allegedly belonged to
Osama bin Laden's
operatives. You can find a confirmation of what I mean in the article "
Mi Hermano bin Laden
", published in the Spanish daily,
El-Mundo
, on September 16, 2001. However, once you claim that the
WTC
was demolished by the three Soviet
mini-nukes
allegedly bought by Osama from Ukraine, then, being a responsible security official, you should also find Russian or Ukrainian nationals who first stole these mini-nukes for the Soviet nuclear arsenals and who actually sold such awful weapons to the terrorists. Isn't' it? Hence another attempt of the Americans --
to implicate
Victor Bout
into trading in mini-nukes and in weapon-grade nuclear materials, in addition to the missiles with half-megaton thermo-nuclear warheads that usually fly around and strike pentagons. It appears that
Victor Bout
was made a scapegoat just for everything that is nuclear. Add here is where the Americans began their unprecedented persecution against Victor Bout only after
9/11
and in an apparent connection with
9/11
. Read the "nuclear" communiqué of John D. Negroponte
that was released immediately after Victor's arrest in Bangkok in March 2008 and that was directly connected to his arrest and moreover, entirely devoted to his arrest. And compare that communiqué by John D. Negroponte with the abovementioned "
El Mundo
" article about the 3 mini-nukes bought by
Osama
from Ukraine and allegedly used for destroying the three
WTC
buildings on
9/11
and surely you will not miss the main point."

Khalezov explains how DEA agent-provocateurs planted fraudulent documents on Viktor Bout's belongings in order to arrest him and charge him with selling missiles to FARC rebels in Colombia:

"The Americans wanted Victor for something else. And for this "something" his apparent Hollywood-inspired image of the "Merchant of Death" was not enough due to this being legally inadmissible in the American court of law. Certain REAL and PROVABLE charges must have been created in order to get him arrested for real. And the American officials found nothing better than to employ the
DEA
(Drug Enforcement Administration) for that reason. Since the
DEA
area of operations are drugs and drug dealers, their modus operandi is corresponding --
to plant drugs on a victim and thus,
to
get the victim arrested
. The very same approach was used in
Victor Bout's
case: the
DEA
agent-provocateurs created a certain provocation that looked perhaps "normal" for a typical drug-policeman, but ridiculous to anyone else. The
DEA
sent their agent to meet
Victor Bout
. This agent, turned out to be Bout s former friend,
Andrew Smulian
, who offered him a deal. But, instead of planting drugs on
Victor Bout
, the
DEA
planted bogus documents and falsified "intercepts" of alleged e-mail exchanges and alleged telephone conversations claiming that
Victor Bout
allegedly: 1) had in his possession portable anti-aircraft missiles; 2) was willing to sell them to
FARC
rebels in Columbia; 3) in doing so he was planning of- and willing to participate in murdering (sic) the US citizens/US officials working in Columbia."

Khalezov says that without the DEA's dubious involvement, the U.S. government would not have a case against Bout. He also says that U.S. officials are not interested in Bout because he supposedly sold weapons to terrorist groups, but because he is a Russian national and exactly the type of person that can be blamed for the disappearance of the P-700 Granit missile which hit the Pentagon on 9/11:

"Despite the fact that compared to the typical planting of real heroin on their clients the
DEA
failed to plant any actual anti-aircraft missiles on Victor, this ridiculous case was judged by the
DEA
superiors to be "solid" enough to be brought to court. And only after THIS provocation of the
DEA
, the US officials dared, at last, to arrest
Victor Bout
and to pass this matter to the court of law. Before that, they have simply nothing in their hands that would be admissible in the court-room. Therefore we can not even talk about alleged former "criminal activities" of Victor Bout in Africa or elsewhere in connection with his current case in the court. The current case is purely about his alleged attempt to sell the alleged "portable anti-aircraft missiles" to FARC in Columbia and nothing else besides that.

This is the official "open" part of the story. However, there is also an official but "secret" part of the same story.
Victor Bout
is not really wanted in America for these absurd and non-existent portable anti-aircraft missiles. This ridiculous frame-up could never be successfully won by the US government in the US court. Victor, in reality, is wanted for something far more serious
that can not be made public and can not be discussed
in the courtroom in any open proceedings."

.

.

.

"Because they knew that the entire story was invented
and no missiles would be found anywhere
. That is why they did not even attempt to go after the missiles. The real cause of the extradition attempt against
Victor Bout
is not these non-existent portable anti-aircraft missiles. The real cause is that the US Government in collaboration with the Russian Government secretly blamed an
individual
named "
Victor Bout
" for selling to the terrorists a
Soviet-made "Granit" missile
that struck the Pentagon on 9/11
.
And THIS is the real truth behind Victor's case
. And THIS secret part of the case the American legal experts
plan to win in the US court behind closed doors
. Because it appears that the Russian FSB has secretly concocted some "plausible" evidence that implicates
Victor Bout
in that alleged deal and the US officials appear to be gullible enough to believe the Russian colleagues and to believe
that such "evidence" would lead to the successful conclusion of the still pending
9/11
Pentagon case
. In addition, Victor is being secretly accused of selling portable nuclear weapons -- known as "mini-nukes" or "suite-case nukes" to various terrorist organizations,
ranging from the Colombian FARC to Osama bin Laden s Al-Qaeda."

Khalezov says don't believe the hype. Every man deserves his day in court. Using the media to smear a person does not make that person guilty. Evidence matters. Khalezov:

"
Victor Bout
can t be turned into "an illegal weapons trader" by the hysterical Western media. Only the court verdict could do this. But not once during all these years has
Victor Bout
receive a summons to any court of law whereby someone sued him for being an illegal weapons dealer. There was not even a single attempt by any government, or by any public prosecutor, or by UN, or by any other organization, or by even a private individual to sue Victor Bout for his being an alleged "Merchant of Death". Why not, you ask? The answer is very simple:
because no solid evidence exists that could be admissible in a court of law
. The image of
Victor Bout
being an alleged "Merchant of Death" is based exclusively on the Hollywood movie, on Douglas Farah's book, and on the bogus "UN report" concocted by a certain unscrupulous inspector, Johan Peleman. A number of Mr. Peleman s former associates are willing to come forward and testify in the court of law that in every UN report,
Victor Bout
s name was added to the final version of the report and that his name was absent in every preliminary UN report on arms trafficking. You simply can't sue Victor Bout for being an illegal weapon trader based on the evidence compiled by the shameless Johan Peleman or bring to court the movie "
Lord of War
" as a substitute for the evidence. That is exactly why the Americans do not want
Victor Bout
for any illegal weapons trade as appears to many people around the world. If they really wanted him for that they would have done it long time ago. The evidence is simply not there."

I hope you read the entire interview. This is important material. It is groundbreaking information. Khalezov is risking his life by telling us what he knows. He was offered a lot of money to shut up, and to undermine Bout's case in court, but he chose the honorable and righteous path. He chose to defend his innocent friend. Share his story. Spread Khalezov's interview with Estulin across the internet. We must do all we can to shatter the lies and the myths that have been created by the monsters who hijacked the U.S. government, orchestrated the 9/11 attacks, and criminally slaughtered hundreds of thousands of people in Iraq and Afghanistan.

 

http://www.opednews.com/Diary/Russian-Whistleblower-Dimi-by-Saman-Mohammadi-110224-253.html?show=votes

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Mariano, acà te dejo un video investigativo e informativo de Alex Jones, el hizo en el enfoque en una cuestiòn meramente religiosa...

 

sin embargo, èste video me parece tiene que ver mucho con el thread, entre los minutos.

 

1:18 hasta el 1:48

 

la psicosis y/o paranoia que provocò el 9/11 fue de tal magnitud, que diò piè a lo expuesto en el video, una familia " pionera " la cual acepto les fuesen implantados microchips porque segùn ellos " asi estaràn a salvo de atentados terroristas "...

 

a lo largo del mismo Alex Jones presenta las evidencias de como han sido y siguen siendo programados/educados y hasta entrenados como animales los norteamericanos para aceptar que les sea implantado debajo de la piel el puto microchip:

 

 

 

 

 

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Mariano, acà te dejo un video investigativo e informativo de Alex Jones

sin embargo, èste video me parece tiene que ver mucho con el thread, entre los minutos.

 

1:18 hasta el 1:48

 

la psicosis y/o paranoia que provocò el 9/11 fue de tal magnitud, que diò piè a lo expuesto en el video, una familia " pionera " la cual acepto les fuesen implantados microchips porque segùn ellos " asi estaràn a salvo de atentados terroristas "...

 

a lo largo del mismo Alex Jones presenta las evidencias de como han sido y siguen siendo programados/educados y hasta entrenados como animales los norteamericanos para aceptar que les sea implantado debajo de la piel el puto microchip:

 

 

Si, este microchip es otra de las ideas de esos teóricos del NUEVO ORDEN MUNDIAL para controlar a la población del mundo.

Se debe concientizar a todos para que se den cuenta cuales son los fines últimos de estos energúmenos para que no puedan hacerlo.

Ahora hecha la ley echa la trampa, ya me imagino la modificación de los datos que se podría hacer en dicho chip de manera de dejarlo inservible para el fin para el cual fue creado.

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Si, este microchip es otra de las ideas de esos teóricos del NUEVO ORDEN MUNDIAL para controlar a la población del mundo.

Se debe concientizar a todos para que se den cuenta cuales son los fines últimos de estos energúmenos para que no puedan hacerlo.

Ahora hecha la ley echa la trampa, ya me imagino la modificación de los datos que se podría hacer en dicho chip de manera de dejarlo inservible para el fin para el cual fue creado.

 

Sabes que es lo triste, que han logrado que la misma gente pida y hasta suplique por una soluciòn contra lo que ellos mismos crearon con gran precisiòn...

 

no necesitan de imponerlo sino que es su soluciòn para combatir secuetros, arrebatos de carteras, punguistas etc.;

 

ademàs, si viene algùn grupo de personas incluidos vos y yo a manifestar ya sabemos lo que nos pasarà, vos fijate que a Alex Jones lo arrestaron en una conferencia solamente por hacerle una pregunta al ese entonces gobernador de Texas george w. bush... y eso que fue una pregunta de manera muy respetuosa con respecto a abolir la reserva federal y el nefasto concilio para relaciones exteriores del cual ya sabemos que es manejado por el idem club bilderberg, al menos yo me entere gracias a DANIEL STULIN y las evidencias que aporta en su libro sobre cual es la verdadera funciòn que ejerce...

 

aca el video del año 1988 donde se ve el arresto arbitrario y prepotente en contra de Alex Jones solamente por preguntar:

 

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Muchachos, sere escueto. Todo es para mantener al dolar como divisa de intercambio internacional. Desde Nixon, que elimino el patron Oro, todo lo hacen para eso. EEUU es como el maton que le pagas por proteccion. La burda cama a Strauss Kahn y el bombardeo de la OTAN a Libia son por eso. DSK era parte del ala del FMI que proponia imponer los derechos especiales de giro (moneda del FMI) para suplantar al dolar (no se que habria sido peor para la economia mundial ya vemos lo que pasa al perder la soberania monetaria en Grecia, España, Portugal). Y Kadafi estaba haciando ventas de petroleo en Euros, como Saddam en el 91. Saludos, y como moraleja de lo de DSK siempre hay que consultar al foro antes del piletazo!

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Muchachos, sere escueto. Todo es para mantener al dolar como divisa de intercambio internacional. Desde Nixon, que elimino el patron Oro, todo lo hacen para eso. EEUU es como el maton que le pagas por proteccion. La burda cama a Strauss Kahn y el bombardeo de la OTAN a Libia son por eso. DSK era parte del ala del FMI que proponia imponer los derechos especiales de giro (moneda del FMI) para suplantar al dolar (no se que habria sido peor para la economia mundial ya vemos lo que pasa al perder la soberania monetaria en Grecia, España, Portugal). Y Kadafi estaba haciando ventas de petroleo en Euros, como Saddam en el 91. Saludos, y como moraleja de lo de DSK siempre hay que consultar al foro antes del piletazo!

 

Es asi. El gobierno de EEUU no quiere hacer una auditoria para conocer la cantidad de oro que existe actualmente en el fort knox, aparentemente habria una infima cantidad de la que se dice. Asi que el poder del dolar solo se basa en el poder militar de EEUU que lo sostienen a fuego y sangre, ademas que no existe todavia nada seria que remplace al dolar como moneda internacional salvo los DEG, los cuales eran defendidos por nuestro querido putañero don Strauss Khan.

 

Buena sintesis

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